The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice
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Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.
Read about Boeing's efforts to get the 737 Max reinstated for flight here: www.vox.com/2019/4/5/18296646/boeing-737-max-mcas-software-update
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  • Joe Gasly
    Joe Gasly

    The people that cut corners on this design are the ones that need to be punished. They should have took their time and redesigned then tested the plane very carefully and slowly to assure nothing could go wrong instead of rushing for the sake of money. Greed!

  • f maunentia
    f maunentia

    still crying looking at this, still remember that morning when Lion Air 610 declared missing...

  • rojeen moral
    rojeen moral

    what do you expect from a giant american company...very irresponsible..all they think is profit

  • dutch van der meme
    dutch van der meme

    They died due to the companys negligence due to them not theachinf the pilota

  • Mrsirgentleman
    Mrsirgentleman

    I just landed with a boeing 737 Max 8 from palma to stockholm. biggest wtf ever when i got on it and i saw it was a 737 Max 8 are they not supposed to be out of traffic?

  • F Rich
    F Rich

    SHAME Boeing! You really screwed up here!

  • Bristol Steve69
    Bristol Steve69

    6.3k Boeing employees hate the truth.

  • DANBOYHD
    DANBOYHD

    This is scandalous

  • shafaq farooqui
    shafaq farooqui

    Playing with lives of people

  • David Myers Phd
    David Myers Phd

    I am a Aerospace engineer.Without getting into , all the technical aspects of this aircraft.Anything can go wrong with a new aircraft in the air.

    • Bristol Steve69
      Bristol Steve69

      So you call Boeing mal-practice, a fundamental lack of basic air safety diligence and corrupt FAA collusion "anything can go wrong with a new aircraft in the air"? For all our safety please let us know who you work for so we can add that company to the list along with Boeing. Or is it Boeing?

  • blink625
    blink625

    Have you guys get oil changed before? Why do they lift the engine and affect performance?

  • M B
    M B

    This video fails to ask the important question: how can Boeing "fix" the problem by making the MCAS system "less aggressive" without increasing the chances of a stall? Oh, I get it, the stall will be the fault of the pilot and not the software. I won't be flying on Boeing planes anymore and I don't just mean the Max.

  • gacha sanoc cd
    gacha sanoc cd

    Upside down engine lol You can see A320neo engine got a bumb on below engine B737max engine bumb on upside down

  • TackerVideos
    TackerVideos

    you guys did such a good job on this video. Its fascinating and yet frightening at the same time.

  • Sam Sam
    Sam Sam

    Typical American junk product... US is not capable of building a decent car, how on earth they thought they can build a decent Airplane??? Just check out all the passenger plane crashes and you will see 90% of them was made in usa planes... that's why everytime i'm flying I ask and make sure it's not an American plane...only Airbus is safe enough to fly with...

  • Derek Childress
    Derek Childress

    Very informative! Just leave well enough alone?

  • Aj
    Aj

    Boeing will declare bankruptcy. The cost of legal battles, payouts to families for wrongful death and loss of revenue due to no company buying a Boeing product ever again will force the company to declare bankruptcy. Unfortunately, this will not help heal the wounds and loss of trust....

    • Marc Pagan
      Marc Pagan

      Boeing is silent....for PR reasons, and justly, in morning. However, if sued the fact of poor pilot training will be addressed. This will settle prior to hitting a courtroom.

  • K B
    K B

    What would Trolls do without a good conspiricy?????

  • Majidy
    Majidy

    No one: ISIS: We take credit for the design flaw

  • TheVeryhumble
    TheVeryhumble

    Free, unregulated market. Hmm

  • Bernard Beaudreau
    Bernard Beaudreau

    Why not simply raise the plane using longer (vertical) landing gear?

  • GuideBeauté Jeu
    GuideBeauté Jeu

    so people were killed by software? wooow

  • tuna huna
    tuna huna

    Looks like multiple manslaughter charges to me!....

  • Jhon Ortiz
    Jhon Ortiz

    Scrap that plane design and make another one

  • Mrfairchap
    Mrfairchap

    Tragically, this was the inevitable result of years of arrogance and hubris from both the FAA and Boeing. They have been lovers for far too long now for it to be healthy for flight safety. At last, they have been found out, and it took way too many deaths to do so.

  • LS MerQ
    LS MerQ

    Money sadly still talks... and in this clip you can see that it's effecting us in a big and bad way.

  • SubiLife_914
    SubiLife_914

    All because of money lots of lives were lost

  • Ichika_Kaneki
    Ichika_Kaneki

    im form ethopia

  • kim bruess
    kim bruess

    a stiched togther rushjob. was nor properly designed

  • Alex Reckling
    Alex Reckling

    I was on a Boeing 737 Max on kuluhla but it wasn’t a bad flight

  • Levi Friedman
    Levi Friedman

    why couldnt Boeing just make the planes legs taller?

  • LenTex Brew
    LenTex Brew

    Boeing loves regulations for smaller competitors who can't necessarily afford them, but not for them.

  • Jet Valmonte
    Jet Valmonte

    Too much ignorance on this page. First, video authors who think they are aviation experts. Then viewers who are clueless about the aviation industry. Wait for the official accident investigation report. In the meantime, you can continue speculating or you can get a life.

  • Will Singh
    Will Singh

    People involved shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a plane again.

  • Law hertz
    Law hertz

    imagine building a company that people decide to use and this company kills hundreds of people giving them their services what company would be allowed to continue without legal concequences and more?

  • Eric Penner
    Eric Penner

    The 'real' in the title is superfluous.

  • Hypeoriginal
    Hypeoriginal

    they tried to blame it on our Ethiopian pilots. They should pay victim's relatives.

  • xb 1
    xb 1

    They should of put the plane body higher so the plane body is not half a metre from the ground

  • Libertiner
    Libertiner

    Well then the CEO of Boeing killed a lot of people, and murders go to jail or get executed

  • George Washington Bush
    George Washington Bush

    Those engineers had to go to prison as murderers !

    • Ceci Gator
      Ceci Gator

      Blame innocent people for poor training?

  • mage
    mage

    (too much) *money is the root of all evil*

  • Orapeleng Tawana
    Orapeleng Tawana

    so people were killed by software? wooow

  • Constandinos Pappas
    Constandinos Pappas

    Surely enough, Boeing have serious avionics engineers in their ranks. And surely enough, these engineers must have advised those above that there was this risk that should be taken into account. Boeing decided to go ahead, KNOWING they were risking lives. If that is not criminal, I don't know what is. We're not talking about manslaughter here.

  • Constandinos Pappas
    Constandinos Pappas

    Since Boeing says it only needs some "software upgrade to fix the problem" (yeah, right), it sounds as if we're talking about a small technical problem. Loss of life? Who cares, we're insured, aren't we...? We'll fix this minor problem and everyone will be happy! I would like to see the CEO and all the chain of decision makers of theirs, to be aboard the first "fixed" 737 MAX, up in the air. Will they do it??? Of course not. If the matter was not so tragic, I would be LMAO! After everything about the 737 MAX has been said so far, what stays in people's minds is not about this plane alone; people will wonder which else of their planes can be trusted now. Bottom line: Boeing has managed to irreparably damage its name. For a few bucks...

  • Chuck You
    Chuck You

    Free vacation for all demonrat politicians, destination Dominican Republic, flights will be on 737 Max. You’re going to love it, be ready to travel before the 2020 elections. And take your illegals with you.

  • Mr Coffee Lover SumBtch
    Mr Coffee Lover SumBtch

    For the entire A320 family, 118 aviation accidents and incidents have occurred (the latest one being Afriqiyah Airways Flight 209 on 23 Dec 2016),[1] including 35 hull loss accidents (the last one being EgyptAir Flight 804 on 19 May 2016),[2] and a total of 1393 fatalities in 17 fatal accidents (the most recent being EgyptAir Flight 804).[3]

  • OGDC
    OGDC

    Boeing should be sued.

  • Alisya Thahira
    Alisya Thahira

    boeing *cancelled*

  • dessnom
    dessnom

    i hope the plane after the Boeing nma/797 will be a proper successor to the Boeing 737 it should have a modernized version of the 737 cockpit it should be as high of the ground as the a320 or 757 composite construction should be used engines should be the cmf leap 1b or similar engine enough range to go from the west coast of Europe to the west coast of america there should be 5 models 7107-6, 7107-7, 7107-8, 7107-9 and 7107-10 -6 would replace the 737-700 -7 would replace the max 7 -8 would replace the max 8, -800 and -900 -9 would replace the max 9 and -900 er -10 would replace the max 10

  • ANTI SALAM-SALAMAN CLUB
    ANTI SALAM-SALAMAN CLUB

    BOEING kill my fella...

  • vicki hindermyer
    vicki hindermyer

    Russians did it, RUSSIANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • John Kurtz
    John Kurtz

    Why didn't t Boeing put longer landing gear on the Max so the new engines would fit with no problem .

    • wan nuur
      wan nuur

      John Kurtz gravity point dude...hw do u stabilize the giant bird by longer d lnding gear?

  • Nolan The dab king
    Nolan The dab king

    How about boeing just remove the MCAS all together

    • Otto von Kewl
      Otto von Kewl

      Then you get a stall.

  • Scott Wagley
    Scott Wagley

    My question is why did so many flights not have any issues and then these two crashed?

  • Kabin Raj Luitel
    Kabin Raj Luitel

    Boeing 737 max should be banned forever!!!

  • Leon Ledergerber
    Leon Ledergerber

    I hope there will be Justice for this, hundreds of People died, why? Because they wanted to compete, and didnt mention the MCAS.

  • Leon Ledergerber
    Leon Ledergerber

    Unacceptable.

  • Gungung Gadung
    Gungung Gadung

    Whoopsie.

  • Igor Dubrovski
    Igor Dubrovski

    Boeing please no more easter eggs in your modern avionics and navigation and flight control systems. Lets be clear - if it's not in the manual it's a major flaw and needs to be removed / documented asap.

  • Joe Barrett
    Joe Barrett

    Excellent video. Thank you

  • Petsto
    Petsto

    To be clear Airbus also has every automatation you can possible Imagen. But as far i know it will always tell the pilots exactly what it does (and why) and secondly with few buttons you can turn off all automatation. (regardless to say that the plane is then much more difficult to fly)

  • Paul Gibbs
    Paul Gibbs

    Nothing about centre of gravity?

  • Ehtu Ehtu Niges
    Ehtu Ehtu Niges

    🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹🇪🇹😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • Zahid Khurshid
    Zahid Khurshid

    Boeing needs to be shutdown immediately. More 300 people died what else is it gonna take to stop these guys from making planes. What's even more concerning is that FAA was letting Boeing certify their own planes. Unreal. Both should legal consequences one of them being complete shut down of Boeing.

    • Black
      Black

      You lost me at "Boeing needs to be shutdown immediately".

  • Bail 10k
    Bail 10k

    who else has flown on one of these 737 max?? scary.

  • Weldon Young
    Weldon Young

    OK, so the Boeing 737 Max has the same type rating as other Boeing 737s. The pilots fly it just like any other 737. That's problem number ONE. NOW the poor pilots are in the Boeing 737 Max when MCAS takes control. Here is where poor design comes in: pilots not informed; no reliance on multiple sensor input; & Boeing know about this problem about a year before the Ethiopian crash. WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG TO CERTIFY A FIT ???

  • That Man In the Yellow Shirt 2000
    That Man In the Yellow Shirt 2000

    Or, I dunno... MAKE TALLER LANDING GEARS.

  • Victor Gonzalez
    Victor Gonzalez

    very well done the low level of experience of the crews should have been mention key factor

  • Natsumei
    Natsumei

    yeah nice job boeing, you use software instead of reengineering. you know, software..the thing that can be easily hacked/changed/tampered *sigh

  • yano agustino
    yano agustino

    Tbh, after those 2 boeing's accidents I always checked out the plane that I will board first, is it boeing or airbus (of course I prefer airbus rn)

    • Razvan Sindilaru
      Razvan Sindilaru

      Man b 737 max is the only boeing bad plane....... for example the 777. It's one of the mort safest plane man or the 787

  • EagleOneoOne
    EagleOneoOne

    Gremlins, bro. Totally gremlins.

  • Zyvren 13
    Zyvren 13

    FAA's certification of this 737 max 8 planes, proves that their relationship with BOEING is not sufficiently strict. Pilots were unaware of this manuevering characteristic augmentation system. Its not even mentioned on their checklist since the checklist is the same as the old 737.

  • muhammad hamzah
    muhammad hamzah

    The real reason: American people ambition, greed, and stupidity

  • Beatrice Noel
    Beatrice Noel

    Greed man... GREED!!!

  • Mathias Hermon
    Mathias Hermon

    This makes me very sad. I never thought Boeing would mess up like this…

    • Jalen Barnes
      Jalen Barnes

      Sadly it wasn't just Boeing.... The FAA also takes part of the blame too :/

  • Alan Caldoza
    Alan Caldoza

    Building a new one to behave like the old one. Then what kind of mindset is that for Boeing.. If that's their goal then why build a new one rather than continue building an old one. Airbus building the A321 but retains the old proven A320 design with minor upgrade but not on its flught computers.

    • Jamenator1
      Jamenator1

      Actually airbus does upgrade the flight control software, some of them are fairly substantial changes. Airbus designed the FBW to make the handling of all their FBW aircraft, from the A318 to the A380, as close to each other as possible as this reduces training costs due to the aircraft behaving similarly to each other. Its a good bet that airbus would have also tweaked the FBW on the A320NEO to accommodate for the much larger engines. Even aircraft already in service can receive upgrades to the FBW

  • Alan Caldoza
    Alan Caldoza

    Its electronics I believe is sabotage by extremist by getting into subcontractor companies. Its better that way than planting a device on planes

  • Jan Verboven
    Jan Verboven

    The BIG problem is - beyond the HEAVY loss of life, which will leave the families on the ground bereaved for their the rest of their lives, BOEING seems untouchable - too BIG to fail.

  • Bruce Bedlam
    Bruce Bedlam

    Thanks for telling us the truth.

  • WTF STUDIO INC.
    WTF STUDIO INC.

    Greedy effing people!!! No regards to human life!!!

  • sugas riyanto
    sugas riyanto

    airbus is better

  • kalyan raghavan
    kalyan raghavan

    Sir, hats off to you. For bringing out a best and investigative video on Max Boeing. It was really a careless and casual attitude, which took the lives of more than 400 passengers. Boeing should take passengers safety as top priority absolutely and shouldn't care about fuel consumption, competitor activities, and cost savings.

  • [Insert Name]
    [Insert Name]

    In a nutshell: People died of money

  • Nehemiah Scudder
    Nehemiah Scudder

    The 737 Max crashed *twice* because Boing executives tried to cover up their slapdash design and manufacturing processes after the first crash. It crashed the first time because the FAA decided to give Boing a free pass so that a European company did not gain a commercial advantage over an American company, sacrificing their reputation as a competent air safety body on the altar of "American exceptionalism" All the phrase "American exceptionalism" means now is "Buy anything *except American"* whenever possible.

  • Technology and Innovation
    Technology and Innovation

    With recent orders placed by American Airlines with Airbus, every American in fact every passenger should avoid this airplane.

  • Technology and Innovation
    Technology and Innovation

    ex BOEING: BOEING needs to come clean. By placing the engine higher causes the air dynamics around the fuselage to behave differently than before, it creates turbulence immediate to the sensors causing the hardware to misinterpret input. So hardware is not malfunctioning but characteristics of the design change is causing the catastrophic failure. It is more severe than what they are claiming in the media. A pilot when working at night (instrument flying) will need to be more cautious and better trained then today to fly safely. Inevitably no matter what BOEING states this aircraft will have more problems then prior models. Boeing is gambling with people's lives to fatten its pocket. BOEING thinks it can wash its hand from every incident in future by claiming that it was pilots error and therefore no blame can be attributed to the company ... as they did soon after the two crashes.

  • NPC AFRO
    NPC AFRO

    *Better Flight on A320*

  • Shawn Rebello
    Shawn Rebello

    Wouldn't it have been easier to simply raise the height of the aircraft by installing taller landing gear? The engines could then have been accommodated under the wing I suppose.

    • Giuseppe Cochi
      Giuseppe Cochi

      Sorry, that was bodged up job

    • Giuseppe Cochi
      Giuseppe Cochi

      It comes back to the fact that this aircraft fuselage is the same as the original 100 series, if they had extended the length of the main landing gear it would not be able to fit into the existing fuselage undercarriage bay so retraction would be impossible, hence the bodied up job of moving the engine forward and up

  • Gary Looper
    Gary Looper

    Simple fact is that as "Flawed" as the Max may or may not be, BOTH CRASHES WERE PILOT ERROR! The first because the exact plane that crashed had the error the previous day and the crew solved the problem by turning off the malfunctioning equipment, Therefore the crew knew how to handle the error. The second because the crew fixed the problem in the air by turning off the malfunctioning equipment and then turned the malfunctioning equipment back on!

  • HEED
    HEED

    and the corruption continues. They didn't anything to solve the problem. updating the software does not make the plane safe. I will never fly on a boeing 737 .

  • Alison Mihailovich
    Alison Mihailovich

    Russian made Super Jet - 100 is better and cheaper ! Irish City Jet fly them now . Its good

  • Bernievids
    Bernievids

    I hope this is true.

  • prolazy55 lazlaz
    prolazy55 lazlaz

    I feel bad

  • Nonya Busi
    Nonya Busi

    Boeing needs in prison.

  • Eric Rojo
    Eric Rojo

    Isn't it ironic that unbridled free enterprise and competition is touted as the solution to bad design decisions and poor quality products (at least in the U.S.). This is one instance where that is not the case.

  • MF SF
    MF SF

    ...and who from Boeing will make jail time for keeping secret that tiny insignificant detail? Sorry... naive question... And the money wins 👌

  • Karen Van Vuuren
    Karen Van Vuuren

    Very impressive video!

  • Daniel
    Daniel

    It was possible to rush it, because boeing is USA...and USA has da power :)

  • Paul Williams
    Paul Williams

    Ř

  • Sleepy
    Sleepy

    As much as people say competition is an inevitable good that comes out of capitalism, the free market naturally moves towards monopolies or singular entities with large marketshare because generally it costs way less for the companies and consumers. Having to only train one pilot to fly two different planes is easier than learning 8. And it costs less for the airline

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